@LORINDAWILCOX yes It happened several times It was no big deal Just dramatic looking! So, I need to keep a finger on the skin above the tip of the cannula as it moves inside Also, keep the bevel up Please correct me if I’m wrong I twice made a tiny movement while inserting and unknowingly the barbs began grabbing and the whole thread is in a ball inside my face...un retrievable So, little dramas, little accidents All is fine!!! I’ll keep updating on anything I feel we need to share Hope to keep someone from making the same mistakes